Skip to main content
Home
Ivimey.Org

Main navigation

  • Home
  • Life
    • About
    • Church
    • Drama
    • Gallery
    • Gardening
    • History
    • Pendon
  • Work
    • Amiga
    • Lilypond Fonts
    • My CV
    • Software
    • Working Life
  • Blog
  • Writing
    • Reviews
    • Newsletters
    • Getting There and Back
User account menu
  • Log in

Breadcrumb

  1. Home

Thoughts on Brexit

By ruth, 25 September, 2019

FOR (things we gain from):

Being in the EU:

  • gives us easy access to friends, relatives, colleagues, and employers, and they can visit us as well;
  • means our voice (via the EU) can be heard coming from a major power block (pop 500M vs 60M);
  • gives us access to EU-wide important projects (such as the EU GPS constellation, , ...) that we would not otherwise have access to, and that we have demonstrably benefited from in jobs and infrastructure;
  • gives us access to investment funding in regions that currently lack it (due in part to the Westminster bubble);
  • brings a degree of oversight of our own govt on issues like human and ecological rights which our Conservatives dislikes dealing with, and which IMO is necessary;
  • helps keeps the peace with countries that we have in the past frequently been at war with;

Leaving the EU:

  • gives us more freedom to interact with the world as we wish to (trade/policy/...);
  • gives us more freedom to run the country as we wish to (e.g vat, subsidies, ...);
  • costs us less money;
  • means no risk of replacing sterling with euro;
  • makes it harder to blame the EU for things that go badly;

 

AGAINST (things we lose from):

Being in the EU:

  • costs us money (2016 ONS report: £18.9bn minus ~£9.4bn credits = £8.1bn per year) of £815bn per year budget, or just under 1%;
  • means that people from the rest of the EU are able to come here (to work, play, ...) without our say-so, possibly doing jobs we might do ourselves;
  • we are able to (would have to) set up trading relationships of our own (but it would take years);
  • parliament would be sovereign - no other body could lawfully parliament what to do (with caveats);
  • the EU defence cooperation might gain enough traction to become a real EU defence force, over time (is this good or bad?);

Leaving the EU:

  • we would need visas for many more travel destinations;
  • loss of access to EU financial markets (already happening);
  • more difficult access to European security organisations;
  • loss of scientific collaboration (which is currently very significant) with scientists in the EU and/or on EU projects;
  • loss of (optimal) trade with EU partners (to WTO or some other...);
  • trade requirements might force us to deal with countries with far lower health/safety standards;
  • trade requirements may mean fewer world goods/services are adapted to UK reqs - (too small a market);
  • loss of our contributions will badly impact poorer nations in the EU (via lower regional subsidies);
  • loss of our military capability (France only other strong player) would make the EU temporarily weaker in defence/intelligence terms), which could influence the balance of world power;
  • possible loss of Gibraltar to Spanish control;
  • possible loss of Scotland to independence;
  • possible loss of / civil war in Northern Ireland;
  • a period of chaos, especially relating travel to/from/UK to anywhere else and which would affect goods as well as people;
  • the EU might drop (would have no official need to keep) use of English in the official EU;
stars
No votes yet
RSS feed
Powered by Drupal